Hi ewong

hi frg_away!

ewong how is it going? still busy at work?

frg_away: yes.. quite so.

frg_away: how are you?

ewong I think you haven't started 2.49.4 but just hold it. 52.9 is only a week away.

ewong yeah was busy at work and with private things. family and co. Didn't have time for much. Should be better in a week. Fog is clearing :)

frg_away: I wish I could say the same on the 'fog is clearing'..

ewong if not in this then in the next life. I plan to become a stone and just watch things.

super ewong 64 and frg_away II turbo

Hi NewTobinParadigm

frg_away: fossilizing ftw!

ewong I am already a fossil looking at the things I like most :)

have to write the PANEL this week

hardest part

i mean it shouldn't be THAT difficult

but i have to make sure I get it right

don't want to screw up and bust the datastore its self

or send out corrupted files

or anything

least my new auth class is working well

of course things could be better like some cross referencing ownership on the actual website and have developer pages

but functional first.. niceities second

only been promicing this crap for over 3 years now

heh

i wish I could find some other people who knew php

so i could talk to them

I'm certain freenode's #php might help

i can do it.. what i mean is be able to talk with people i know about php in some depth

like if I were to talk to any one of you about javascript

THAT sort of thing

what I need to do isn't super difficult to do just need to make sure I get it right is all

and if they are freenode php developers they will likely have notions in their head and think I am approching things incorrectly because I am not using a framework.. etc

you know ewong

NewTobinParadigm: um.. those in #php don't know php in depth or am I missing something?

ewong: there is a culture in open source that I am not a fan of.. elitism

if I go to #php and if i can GET someone to look at my code they would then start commenting on all kinds of aspects of why it isn't good in their opinion and any HELP i were to request the bulk of them would suggest off the shelf solutions etc

it just wouldn't end well

I don't need help perse it would just be nice to be able to speak to some non-elitist corrupted php people about php sometimes

you understand ewong

all the php people i know right now have decided they hate php

NewTobinParadigm: why's that?

php isn't fasionable anymore

everyone has to be an elitist or at the least an extremeist

and it is very easy to fall into that trap

trust me I know

you're kinda generalized the population who've moved away from php.. php is only a tool.. if it doesn't work for them.. it's pretty much their prerogative.. I don't it's anything to do with elitism (which does exist)..

then I seem to have a talent for finding it

I'm not saying there *isn't* any elitism in open source.. there is...

anyway... off

no clue myself, but maybe this could provide a clue to our 2.53 session restore issues ? old.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/…indow_called_from_background_thread

therube. Not sure. I didn't see anything in the logs. Might need to do a debug build but I probably will just rip out the old code and see how this goes then. I suspect either a history problem and/or some timing issue or missing pricipal referrer somewhere in the sessionstore file. It works for the first time but not the second with a new one.

frg_away: sent you a new view source patch for c-c the one i sent before had some bad cutting and pasting.

WG9s saw it. Still busy at work. Hopefully later.

sent you 2 for 2.53 back.

ok looking

will try to get new 2.53 builds today with those

i sudeenly noticed loking at the patch that it was using the messneger dtd file of both cohices on the ifdef

so don;t use the c-c view source patch form the email that has 4 attachments

frg_away: ok i have the new patches all staged. i will kick off these builds after the 2.57 builds today

frg_away: and i just simplified the staging of patches so that they only need to be on my serverand other systems download them form there. this is consitant with the way all of my other builds work.

WG9s Bill, your editmenuoverlay Patch seems to miss the downloadmanager.xul now under components. Just checking them now.

frg_away: meant to ask about that in the email guess i forgot all i did was remove all of the references to the old stuff to make it apply

WG9s should work 1:1 if you just change the location

frg OK I will look at it today and send you new patches

WG9s and add the proprocessing for it in the new jar.mn

frg_away: yes

WG9s Just sent you a mail. I fixed the patcheh header and just renamed them. Maybe you could use these as a base.

frg_away: OK

frg_away: might not have time till tomorrow but it is on my todo list

WG9s no worries

frg_away: had i not decided to bite the bullet and change how my 2.53 builds work today would ahve been no problem but i really don;t expect this to work on the first try

frg_away: and almost time for the linux build so might be busy fixing 2.53 build issues

WG9s knocking on wood

frg_away: all aof my other builds work off a small script file which downloads the real build sciprt file off of my server which then downloads everythong else form the server including any patches. the 2.,53 i thought would be only a short term temporary thing so it kind of required everyting to be local. i finally got tired of having to update the patch queue in so many places an not...

...being able to really do a build on a different system if tyring to do windows builds in parrellel.

frg_away: this also ensures that the files i refernce on the page match exactly with what i built because those are the zip files the build uses to obtain the current patch queue.

WG9s I am thinking of putting up a 2.53 repo on gitlab. Patch Queue becomes unmanagable.

frg_away: i was going to suggest that.

frg_away: except now that M$ is taking over github ..

frg_away: and perhaps that is too local M$ is shorthand for Microsoft

WG9s that is why I opened an account on gitlab. My nick there was still available. Taken on github

frg_away: i have a github account also

oh you said gitlab

i don;t have an acccount there

i will try to open one

frg_away: OK I have an account on Gitlab now

WG9s seems they had a "run in" of new users since the github sale

frg_away: like i guessed it did not work and i did not have a -0x on the script invocation where it failed so hard to figure out what happened. relaunch with the -x

frg_away: ok i think i fixed it and linux build runing now

WG9s two more patches on the way for 2.53. Not urgent.

frg_away: maybe u can get those in before i do the windows build

WG9s the two via mail are it for today. The others need some prerequisites and porting them now.

night all

Are there any plans to support the media plugins (openh264 and that other thing) in SeaMonkey the way they are in Firefox? Or am I stuck needing to find another browser (e.g. a copy of Firefox) if I want to view stuff on ABC iView? (which now needs h264 and such instead of the Flash it was using before)